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My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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Last weekend I rode with Greg Grimes and Roger Ward and paid a visit to our mutual friend, Larry Banks. On the way there I was shown a book, published in 1938, given to members of Chappegat Lodge.
The book included the lodge by laws and rules. It included instructions on how to wear the "bands", as the OA Sash was called then, and lodge pin. Specifically, Brotherhood members were instructed that the bands and arrow on the lodge pin were to be worn pointed toward the left shoulder. It was also stated that the lodge pin could not be given to a non-member of either sex. This refers to the custom, still practiced today, of fraternity brothers giving their pins to their girl friends as a token of affection. The centerfold was the brother's membership certificate.
The music and lyrics of the OA song and the lodge song were also printed in the book.
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There has been some discussion recently on patch-l about an eBay seller currently using the id, "discountbar". He is operating out of Huhhot, China and selling fake Boy Scout patches.
Several members of that list have pointed out that he is stealing images of real patches from this site and using them to illustrate his auctions. Winning bidders report they do not receive the items pictured, but instead get computer designed fakes of those patches.
Posted in Shared Items by John E. Pannell on February 18th, 2009 at 5:50 am February 16, 2009
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Posted in Patch Collecting by John E. Pannell on February 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am I saw this article at WebProNews last weekend and thought it was worth sharing here. The writer summarizes and opines on the many frustrations sellers currently are experiencing with eBay. I frequently hear patch collectors and sellers complain about many of these same items:
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Posted in Shared Items by John E. Pannell on February 17th, 2009 at 5:50 am February 14, 2009
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Tali Taktaki 70: Unaliyi Chapter Neckerchief Slide
Tali Takitaki 70 Unaliyi Chapter Neckerchief Slide
Earlier today I was was glancing at the directory on my computer at home that is full of images that have not yet made it onto the site for one reason or another. Among these images I found this interesting neckerchief slide from Unaliyi chapter of Tali Taktaki 70 that I had first saved in January 2008. I do not remember who sent this scan to me but know this is not in my collection.
Neckerchief slides are generally not listed in Blue Book and on this site, except for some leather items that have historically been considered “patches”. I have pictured some items like this on the site but have not been either systematic or thorough about it. So, I am not surprised I sat on this image for a long time.
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Posted in Shared Items by John E. Pannell on February 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm February 16, 2009
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Posted in Uncategorized by John E. Pannell on February 16th, 2009 at 12:00 am Nayawin Rar lodge has issued a new standard flap. Thanks to Rick Pridgen for supplying the image of this piece.The lodge returns to a more traditional representation of their totem, the night hawk, on this flap. It has a red border, and a red fleur d’lis (fdl) on each side of the lodge name and is rendered in CD style embroidery.
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Tali Taktaki 70: New Fake Spotted
Tali Taktaki 70 ZX2?
Ed Glass recently acquired through eBay what he was hoping would be an X4 from Tali Taktaki. It turns out the item, pictured to the left, is a new fake and not an issue of Tali Taktaki lodge. The images used in this post are from Ed and not what was used on eBay.
Ed is still working with the seller of this item, so I will not name the seller at this time.
It appears whoever had this fake made has access to an image of this issue but did not have enough information to fake this properly. As you can see from this image there are at least two significant differences between this patch and an authentic X4. First Blue Book and this site lists the X4 as being 99mm (wide) by 148mm (high) while this new patch looks to be only about 90mm high. Second the X4 comes in two varieties: TRR (twill right rough) and TRS (twill right smooth). This fake is TLR (twill left rough).
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Posted in Current Events by John E. Pannell on February 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm It is interesting to see how far we have come in the past few decades. Here are some quotes from three different U.S. presidents, in the past half century,all acknowledged as great orators in their day.
“Those of us who manage the public dollars will be held to account to spend wisely, reform bad habits, and do our business in the light of day, because only then can we restore the vital trust between a people and our government.”
– President Barack Obama, Inaugural Address, 1/20/2009
Really? I wish this was so. When will they be held accountable for their foolhardiness in managing public funds over the last several decades!?
“This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.”
– President Ronald Reagan, 1964, while campaigning in support of Barry Goldwater
“Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
– President Barack Obama, 2008, St. Paul, MN
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Posted in Patch Collecting by John E. Pannell on February 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am 
1981 W-3A Conclave Participant Segment
Darrell Wessinger recently posted an image on patch-l of an unusual patch he recently acquired, pictured at the top of the post. He thought this was possibly an unlisted issue of Unami 1. That seemed like a reasonable conclusion given how the number “1″ and what appears to be Unami’s turtle features prominently in the design. If nothing else it would be a good starting point for research into this item.
Craig Leighty was able to quickly tell the list that any such conclusion was wrong. This item was issued by W-3A at their 1981 conclave as a participation segment. He reports there was also a green bordered patch with the same design that was used for the Council of Chiefs.
Identifying patches is not always easy. Some times things are not what they seem to be.
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Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
It is with shock and sadness that I pass along this message Tim Brown forwarded to me this morning:
With deep regret I must announce that my son, Matthew Thomas Kirkland, 31, passed from this world at 9:30 this evening. Matt suffered a massive stroke last night. We are having Matthew cremated and will hold a private ceremony in Memphis at a later date. For those who knew Matt, if you desire, to make a donation to the Transatlantic Council, Boy Scouts of America in his name. http://www.tac-bsa.org/Home.html
Matt was a significant contributor to this site, especially for Black Eagle lodge 482. He will be missed.
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