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January 6th, 2012
A Guide to Identifying Chinese Fakes on eBay
My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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December 23rd, 2011
Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery (III)
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I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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December 22nd, 2011
One of These Things Is Not Like the Other...
"One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others. By the time I finish my song?"
How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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December 7th, 2011
Of Thee We Sing... About Our Lodge
Last weekend I rode with Greg Grimes and Roger Ward and paid a visit to our mutual friend, Larry Banks. On the way there I was shown a book, published in 1938, given to members of Chappegat Lodge.
The book included the lodge by laws and rules. It included instructions on how to wear the "bands", as the OA Sash was called then, and lodge pin. Specifically, Brotherhood members were instructed that the bands and arrow on the lodge pin were to be worn pointed toward the left shoulder. It was also stated that the lodge pin could not be given to a non-member of either sex. This refers to the custom, still practiced today, of fraternity brothers giving their pins to their girl friends as a token of affection. The centerfold was the brother's membership certificate.
The music and lyrics of the OA song and the lodge song were also printed in the book.
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December 5th, 2011
From China... Again
There has been some discussion recently on patch-l about an eBay seller currently using the id, "discountbar". He is operating out of Huhhot, China and selling fake Boy Scout patches.
Several members of that list have pointed out that he is stealing images of real patches from this site and using them to illustrate his auctions. Winning bidders report they do not receive the items pictured, but instead get computer designed fakes of those patches.
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Archive for July, 2009
I’m a bit jealous of Jason Spangler, aka The Santee Swapper. He’s at the pre-NOAC TOR and I’m not. Jason has started a blog for his trip to the TOR and NOAC. You can keep up with him at www.2009noac.com. He also has a Twitter feed set up for those who use that site.
He already has made a few posts from the first day of the Trade-o-Ree and Wednesday night’s auction.
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Tsoiotsi Tsogalii 70 S33?+X20?
Tsoiotsi Tsogalii lodge issued a two part set for NOAC last January that I previously reported on this blog. Recently I became aware that the lodge had decided to issue a second set just for those who are part of the lodge’s delegation and are serving on staff for NOAC. It uses the same design as the earlier set however the border is changed from white to red.
200 of these sets have been produced, a low number for this lodge. They will be issued 4 per person to all delegates and staff members from this lodge. I do not know how any extras will be distributed, but if the lodge treats this like they have other special issues, they will be sold to those there. I expect none will come home from Indiana.
The listing data for these issues are as follows:
| Issue |
Bdr Color/Type |
Bkgd |
Name |
fdl/BSA |
Comments |
| S33? |
RED |
R |
M/C |
WHT |
GRN |
fdl; NOAC 2009 Indiana University (delegate) |
| X20? |
RED |
R |
M/C |
BLK |
GRN |
fdl; NOAC 2009 (delegate) |
| Tsoiotsi Tsogalii lodge page on OAImages.com |
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The 2009 pre-NOAC Trade-o-ree kicks off tonight with the traditional live auction. Chris Jensen is once again running the auction and has posted the list of lots and descriptions on the Streamwood website. There are just over 100 lots of interesting and unusual items that will be sold tonight.
It is too late to place an absentee bid. However, if you know someone who will be there, perhaps you can arrange to have them bid for you. Chris mentions in his auction rules that it might still be possible to arrange for someone to bid by phone during the auction. See the auction rules for further information.
I wish I could be there with you all tomorrow night, but it wasn’t feasible for me to attend either NOAC or the TOR this time around. Good luck to bidders and safe travel to all those going to the TOR and conference.
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Tsoiotsi Tsogalii 70 eR2009-2?
This year Tsoiotsi Tsogalii lodge is operating under a different calendar, changing the timing of events that had remained in place since the days of its predecessor lodges. One of the changes moves the Spring Fellowship from early March to May; actually having the event in Spring instead of very late Winter. I didn’t attend this year. I had not even seen the event patch until Johnny Somers sent me a scan of it.
Some were disappointed with the rendering of this patch design. The depiction of the lodge totem was worth a few giggles. The tail of the hawk was accidentally rendered in pink instead of red, a silly mistake for someone to make. Also the way that tail was rendered, made it look like something other than what was intended. My guess is the design was intended to emulate a sheriff’s badge, or something similar.
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Eswau Huppeday 560 S53?
I previously wrote about the trader flap (F13?) Eswau Huppeday issued for this Summer’s NOAC. Now David Cody has shared with me three more patches the lodge has issued for this event. These include two different delegate flaps, and a large triangular patch issued on a neckerchief.
The first delegate flap (F14?) is similar to the previously issued flap except for the RED felt, instead of light blue, used for the background.
The second delegate flap (S53?, pictured) was for those who completed the required advance paperwork and attended the lodge’s NOAC contingent meeting. The design uses the “Spy vs. Spy” theme that was previously used for their Dixie Fellowship flap. I had been customary in recent years for the lodge to use similar themes for both its Dixie and NOAC flaps. The fleur d’lis is hidden on the left side of the brown ground.
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Ebay is eyeing new seller responsibility policies that could take effect in September. An announcement is expected in the last week of July. They are being marketed as a way to make sellers abide by “best practices” and to make eBay a more mainstream marketplace that is safer for users. I immediately see problems with this and believe it will have a negative effect on those in the Scouting collectibles market.
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January 14th, 2012
An OAImages iPad App?
Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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October 4th, 2011
Indian Summer and Summit Corps Patches
I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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August 27th, 2011
Coming out of Hiding About April 1st
It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
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March 31st, 2011
Comment Spam
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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February 11th, 2011
Change in Comments Policy
This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
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February 9th, 2011
Gone Home: Matt Kirkland
It is with shock and sadness that I pass along this message Tim Brown forwarded to me this morning:
With deep regret I must announce that my son, Matthew Thomas Kirkland, 31, passed from this world at 9:30 this evening. Matt suffered a massive stroke last night. We are having Matthew cremated and will hold a private ceremony in Memphis at a later date. For those who knew Matt, if you desire, to make a donation to the Transatlantic Council, Boy Scouts of America in his name. http://www.tac-bsa.org/Home.html
Matt was a significant contributor to this site, especially for Black Eagle lodge 482. He will be missed.
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