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January 6th, 2012
A Guide to Identifying Chinese Fakes on eBay
My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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December 23rd, 2011
Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery (III)
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I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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December 22nd, 2011
One of These Things Is Not Like the Other...
"One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others. By the time I finish my song?"
How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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December 7th, 2011
Of Thee We Sing... About Our Lodge
Last weekend I rode with Greg Grimes and Roger Ward and paid a visit to our mutual friend, Larry Banks. On the way there I was shown a book, published in 1938, given to members of Chappegat Lodge.
The book included the lodge by laws and rules. It included instructions on how to wear the "bands", as the OA Sash was called then, and lodge pin. Specifically, Brotherhood members were instructed that the bands and arrow on the lodge pin were to be worn pointed toward the left shoulder. It was also stated that the lodge pin could not be given to a non-member of either sex. This refers to the custom, still practiced today, of fraternity brothers giving their pins to their girl friends as a token of affection. The centerfold was the brother's membership certificate.
The music and lyrics of the OA song and the lodge song were also printed in the book.
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December 5th, 2011
From China... Again
There has been some discussion recently on patch-l about an eBay seller currently using the id, "discountbar". He is operating out of Huhhot, China and selling fake Boy Scout patches.
Several members of that list have pointed out that he is stealing images of real patches from this site and using them to illustrate his auctions. Winning bidders report they do not receive the items pictured, but instead get computer designed fakes of those patches.
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Archive for August, 2009

Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 X14?
Larry Banks recently sent me several images from North Carolina lodges that were not yet listed here. Among them is this patch from Itibapishe Iti Hollo lodge. News of issues from this small lodge often does not reach me in a timely manner so it’s not unusual to hear about an item a year or so after it was first issued.
I presume this piece is similar in purpose to the “All Events” issues from Catawba 459 and some of the other pre-registration patches issued by other lodges. Therefore I have listed it as “X14?” placing it before the 2008 Dixie Fellowship issues. This means several other issues from this lodge will be renumbered on this site. If you catalogue your collections based upon the tentative numbers used on this site, please note and make any necessary changes.
The listing data for this patch, and all renumbered items are as follows:
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Are there too many posts to handle? Maybe you missed out on a great post. Here’s a quick digest of the top posts from last week that you may want to check out:
- Guest Editorial: On Patch Restrictions
Rick Obermeyer taught a training session on “Ethical Patch Distribution” at NOAC earlier this month. The topic of patch restrictions often arises in conversation both at NOAC and elsewhere. It is raised often enough that he included an answer to this question in his handouts. I share this here with his permission.
- Lodge 117: 2009 NOAC Delegate Flap
Posted on Thursday, August 27th, 2009 in Croatan 117 – Views: (64)
I recently wrote about a two part set Croatan lodge issued for NOAC. Greg Grimes now tells me the lodge also issued a restricted flap for its NOAC delegates. This flap continues the Three Musketeers and “The Power of One” themes. D’Artagnan is apparently featured here.
- Lodge 87: 2009 NOAC Set
Posted on Monday, August 24th, 2009 in Bob White 87 – Views: (87)
Bob White lodge honored a true American hero, unkown to most, on their NOAC set. In this way they provided an excellent witness to the “Power of One”. Jimmie Dyess was an Eagle Scout and Scouter from the Georgia-Carolina Council who posthumously received the Medal of Honor for his actions during World War 2.
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The Unknown Lodges (Originally printed in Blue Book – reprinted with permission of the American Scouting Historical Society)
by Jeff Morley and Bill Topkis
It is hard to imagine the Order of the Arrow of the early 1920’s. The scouting program itself was less than 15 years old and the Boy Scouts of America was only one of several scouting organizations competing for national dominance. In those days, the program was not even called Order of the Arrow. What we now know as the OA began in 1915 as Wimactendienk W. W. and was one of several honor camper societies to form during the first decade of Scouting.
Based upon the few first-hand accounts by members who were active in the 1920’s, minutes of early meetings of the Grand Lodge and the official “History of the Order of the Arrow†by Kenneth Davis, an amazing picture of the order’s early years begins to emerge.
Scout councils began procuring their own camps in the early to mid 1920’s. Before then, it was commonplace for councils to share large camp areas. Three such areas were Treasure Island on the Deleware River near Philadelphia, Lake Kawonanke, and Crystal Lake in New York. Scout encampments from many councils co-existed along the shores of the latter two locations and in the case of Kawonanke Lake, we know that well over thirty different scout councils had campgrounds there at the same time. In circumstances such as these, it is easy to see that if one council utilized a popular honor camper society, it would not be long before the idea would spread to neighboring council camps and such was the case in the early days.
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Atta Kulla Kulla 185 eX2009-2?
Brad Hutto sends word of the latest event issue from Atta Kulla Kulla lodge, issued for the lodge’s cookout. This is the third of series of patches issued for the lodge’s 2009 events and the 2009 Dixie Fellowship. Previous issues were the 2009 Spring Fellowship (eX2009-1?) and 2009 Dixie Fellowship (X21?) patches. When completed, the set will depict a whippoorwill superimposed upon a compass rose.
Just a very small portion of the whippoorwill is shown at the point of this patch.
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1967 Dixie Fellowship Patch
The sixteenth Dixie Fellowship, the 1967 Area 6-B Fellowship, remained in North Carolina with Itibapishe Iti Hollo 188 serving as host lodge.
This was the first Dixie Fellowship held at the brand new Camp John J. Barnhardt. It was also the first time since the lodge hosted a Dixie Fellowship since the 1954 meeting at Camp Dick Henning.
Riddle and McLean report in their A Golden Legacy: A 50th Anniversary of the Dixie Fellowship that the meals had to be served from the OA building due to the lack of a dining hall. They also note this camp was built on the site of the former “black” camp for Central North Carolina Council. Riddle and McLean do not mention it but I pressume Scouting in this council was intergrated with the construction of the new camp.
The tradition of the fellowship patch showing the totem of the host lodge was essentially maintained. Blue Book, and therefore my site, has oddly listed the totem of this lodge as a beaver* however an American Indian in full bonnet often appears on this lodge’s patches. An adaptation of that appears as a central element in this patch.
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Croatan 117 S71?
I recently wrote about a two part set Croatan lodge issued for NOAC. Greg Grimes now tells me the lodge also issued a restricted flap for its NOAC delegates. This flap continues the Three Musketeers and “The Power of One” themes. D’Artagnan is apparently featured here. This issue also continues a recent tradition and incorporates the initials of the current lodge chief into its design.
A few words are needed about the colors used on this patch.
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Santee 116 S29?+X10?
Santee lodge issued its first true two part set for this year’s NOAC. Their GMY bordered delegate set, pictured, marks the first time this lodge has issued a restricted “delegate” patch for a section or national event. Thanks to Jason Spangler for providing the scans of these pieces.
The designs of these sets are identical except for the border color. Both the flap and chevron feature design elements – the SC state profile, the palmetto, the crescent moon, and the Carolina parakeet — traditional to Santee lodge patches.
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"If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect."
Ted Turner
Rick Obermeyer taught a training session on “Ethical Patch Distribution” at NOAC earlier this month. The topic of patch restrictions often arises in conversation both at NOAC and elsewhere. It is raised often enough that he included an answer to this question in his handouts. I share this here with his permission.
Q4: How do you feel about restrictions?
A4: That really isn’t in the context of this session, but since we have time, I’ll give you my personal opinions, if you like. I can’t speak on restrictions for everybody. That would be too presumptuous. I can only talk about what works for my own lodge back home. Shall I go ahead?
How my lodge feels about restrictions is based on some premises. The first premise is that we are all brothers in the Order of the Arrow. That is, equal brothers. We all got into the OA the same way, with election by others. If we have Brotherhood membership, that’s because we all individually made a personal promise to accept the challenge to cheerful service that was shown to us during the Ordeal. If we are Vigil, that is a sign given to indicate that others feel that we have done a decent job of keeping that personal promise we made to ourselves at Brotherhood.
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January 14th, 2012
An OAImages iPad App?
Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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October 4th, 2011
Indian Summer and Summit Corps Patches
I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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August 27th, 2011
Coming out of Hiding About April 1st
It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
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March 31st, 2011
Comment Spam
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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February 11th, 2011
Change in Comments Policy
This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
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February 9th, 2011
Gone Home: Matt Kirkland
It is with shock and sadness that I pass along this message Tim Brown forwarded to me this morning:
With deep regret I must announce that my son, Matthew Thomas Kirkland, 31, passed from this world at 9:30 this evening. Matt suffered a massive stroke last night. We are having Matthew cremated and will hold a private ceremony in Memphis at a later date. For those who knew Matt, if you desire, to make a donation to the Transatlantic Council, Boy Scouts of America in his name. http://www.tac-bsa.org/Home.html
Matt was a significant contributor to this site, especially for Black Eagle lodge 482. He will be missed.
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