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January 6th, 2012
A Guide to Identifying Chinese Fakes on eBay
My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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December 23rd, 2011
Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery (III)
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I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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December 22nd, 2011
One of These Things Is Not Like the Other...
"One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others. By the time I finish my song?"
How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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December 7th, 2011
Of Thee We Sing... About Our Lodge
Last weekend I rode with Greg Grimes and Roger Ward and paid a visit to our mutual friend, Larry Banks. On the way there I was shown a book, published in 1938, given to members of Chappegat Lodge.
The book included the lodge by laws and rules. It included instructions on how to wear the "bands", as the OA Sash was called then, and lodge pin. Specifically, Brotherhood members were instructed that the bands and arrow on the lodge pin were to be worn pointed toward the left shoulder. It was also stated that the lodge pin could not be given to a non-member of either sex. This refers to the custom, still practiced today, of fraternity brothers giving their pins to their girl friends as a token of affection. The centerfold was the brother's membership certificate.
The music and lyrics of the OA song and the lodge song were also printed in the book.
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December 5th, 2011
From China... Again
There has been some discussion recently on patch-l about an eBay seller currently using the id, "discountbar". He is operating out of Huhhot, China and selling fake Boy Scout patches.
Several members of that list have pointed out that he is stealing images of real patches from this site and using them to illustrate his auctions. Winning bidders report they do not receive the items pictured, but instead get computer designed fakes of those patches.
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Archive for May, 2010

Wahissa 118 R11?
Wahissa lodge broke with their own tradition* this year and issued a patch for its brothers who attended the 2010 SR-7B Conclave. However, there was a wrinkle. Thanks to Homer Dearmin for this image.
These were issued one per person to lodge members who preregistered for the SR-7B conclave. It has been reported to me that not enough were produced and some later pre-registrants did not receive a patch. The design is based upon the “hippy” theme the lodge delegation adopted at conclave.
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Ani Difranco
Are there too many posts to handle? Maybe you missed out on a great post. Here’s a quick digest of the top posts from last week that you may want to check out:
- Lodge 104: A Nod to Tradition
“Without our traditions our lives would be as shaky as… as…”Occoneechee lodge issued a new neckerchief at its recent Spring Ordeal. Following Blue Book custom, since this is a patch sewn onto a neckerchief, it is treated as a “pie” patch (P) rather than neckerchief (N).
- Lodge 104: New Eluwak Chapter Issues
There has been a lot of publicity and discussion on the National policy that prohibits lodge flaps for the individual “honors” (Ordeal, Brotherhood and Vigil), also referred to as OBV flaps. Many lodges did not have such flaps and were unaffected by this change.
- Lodge 118: 2010 Events Issues
Posted on Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 in SR-7B Lodges – Views: (60)
Thanks to Homer Dearmin for sending me images for several recent issues from Wahissa lodge not previously shown on this site. Two of them are for events patches from this lodge.The first of these is for the lodge’s March Workday.
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Dirge For Two Veterans
By Walt Whitman
THE last sunbeam
Lightly falls from the finish’d Sabbath,
On the pavement here, and there beyond it is looking,
Down a new-made double grave.
Lo, the moon ascending,
Up from the east the silvery round moon,
Beautiful over the house-tops, ghastly, phantom moon,
Immense and silent moon.
I see a sad procession,
And I hear the sound of coming full-key’d bugles,
All the channels of the city streets they’re flooding,
As with voices and with tears.
I hear the great drums pounding,
And the small drums steady whirring,
And every blow of the great convulsive drums,
Strikes me through and through.
For the son is brought with the father,
(In the foremost ranks of the fierce assault they fell,
Two veterans son and father dropt together,
And the double grave awaits them.)
Now nearer blow the bugles,
And the drums strike more convulsive,
And the daylight o’er the pavement quite has faded,
And the strong dead-march enwraps me.
In the eastern sky up-buoying,
The sorrowful vast phantom moves illumin’d,
(‘Tis some mother’s large transparent face,
In heaven brighter growing.)
O strong dead-march you please me!
O moon immense with your silvery face you soothe me!
O my soldiers twain! O my veterans passing to burial!
What I have I also give you.
The moon gives you light,
And the bugles and the drums give you music,
And my heart, O my soldiers, my veterans,
My heart gives you love.
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A new OA lodge has been formed in New York. Previously the councils of Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 (Rochester Area) and Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 (Finger Lakes) merged to form Seneca Waterways Council. I can now announce the new OA lodge is Tschipey Achtu lodge. They will use the number 397, which is also the council number.
Thanks to Craig Leighty for directing me to the official word on the council’s website about this. I may also have missed this news on Bill Mulrenin’s excellent NY OA blog.
The National Order of the Arrow no longer officially assigns lodge numbers but most lodges still use their traditional numbers. Collectors also have continued to use lodge numbers since OA lodge names are often difficult to pronounce, and out of a sense of tradition and convenience. Since this change by National newly formed lodges have followed a variety of practices. Some, like Pocumtuc lodge, have made it a point to adopt no lodge number although some collectors use a number (83) anyways. Others like Takoda lodge have, at least in some circles, used a number (146) of historical significance to them. Still others, like Kittan lodge, have used their council’s number (364) as their own. 364 was also conveniently the lodge number of one of Kittan’s predecessor lodges.
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"Numbers written on restaurant bills within the confines of restaurants do not follow the same mathematical laws as numbers written on any other pieces of paper in any other parts of the Universe.
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Douglas Adams
As previously noted here, here, and here, O-Shot-Caw Lodge 265 has a three-year long theme to their weekend activity patches, using depictions of National Jamboree designs. The recent S-4 Conference was an opportunity to get caught up on the more recent creations. The 2010 Year patch uses the design of the 1985 Jamboree patch.
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Occoneechee 104 Eluwak Chapter X2?
There has been a lot of publicity and discussion on the National policy that prohibits lodge flaps for the individual “honors” (Ordeal, Brotherhood and Vigil), also referred to as OBV flaps. Many lodges did not have such flaps and were unaffected by this change. Some lodges that formerly issued OBV flaps have discontinued the practice. A rare few came up with creative ways to skirt the rule and continue the tradition for at least a little longer. Did Eluwak Chapter in Occoneechee lodge realize this applied to loge flaps and and not rectangular patches issued by chapters? Thanks to Greg Grimes for news of these issues and the images.
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Occoneechee 104 Eluwak Chapter X2?
There has been a lot of publicity and discussion on the National policy that prohibits lodge flaps for the individual “honors” (Ordeal, Brotherhood and Vigil), also referred to as OBV flaps. Many lodges did not have such flaps and were unaffected by this change. Some lodges that formerly issued OBV flaps have discontinued the practice. A rare few came up with creative ways to skirt the rule and continue the tradition for at least a little longer. Did Eluwak Chapter in Occoneechee lodge realize this applied to loge flaps and and not rectangular patches issued by chapters? Thanks to Greg Grimes for news of these issues and the images.
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Wahissa 118 X24?
Thanks again to Homer Dearmin for these two images of the 2009 and 2010 Cook Crew patches from Wahissa lodge. Both patches feature the same basic coffee pot design that the lodge has used for its cook crew patches since at least 1976.
The 2010 issue (X24?, pictured) was also issued to commemorate the BSA’s centennial. The two basic design elements of the “BSA 2010″ logo and the phrase “100 Years of Scouting” are added to the basic design. Strictly speaking “100 years of Scouting” should have been celebrated in 2007, but we know the lodge refers only to the BSA on this patch.
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Wahissa 118 eA2010-2?
Thanks to Homer Dearmin for sending me images for several recent issues from Wahissa lodge not previously shown on this site. Two of them are for events patches from this lodge.
The first of these is for the lodge’s March Workday. The second (pictured) is for the lodge’s recent Spring Fellowship. The lodge’s totem on the Spring Fellowship patch is similar in design to the lodge’s S1. The Workday patch adapts the lodge’s totem from the lodge’s P1. Homer Dearmin has commented, “…Each of the event patches this year will be ‘throwbacks’ to older Wahissa/Camp Raven Knob/Old Hickory Council issues…”
Both patches are also issues for the BSA’s 100th anniversary. Note the use of the BSA’s “2010″ logo.
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Recent OAImages News
January 14th, 2012
An OAImages iPad App?
Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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October 4th, 2011
Indian Summer and Summit Corps Patches
I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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August 27th, 2011
Coming out of Hiding About April 1st
It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
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March 31st, 2011
Comment Spam
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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February 11th, 2011
Change in Comments Policy
This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
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February 9th, 2011
Gone Home: Matt Kirkland
It is with shock and sadness that I pass along this message Tim Brown forwarded to me this morning:
With deep regret I must announce that my son, Matthew Thomas Kirkland, 31, passed from this world at 9:30 this evening. Matt suffered a massive stroke last night. We are having Matthew cremated and will hold a private ceremony in Memphis at a later date. For those who knew Matt, if you desire, to make a donation to the Transatlantic Council, Boy Scouts of America in his name. http://www.tac-bsa.org/Home.html
Matt was a significant contributor to this site, especially for Black Eagle lodge 482. He will be missed.
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