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February 8th, 2012
What's Up With Blue Book?
Many of us have been wondering for years what will happen with Blue Book. A new version has not been published since 2006. At 1pm today Jason Spangler will broadcast part one of an interview with Roy More where they discuss the future of Blue Book.
Scouting Hot Finds Radio: Blue Book 2.0 Update with Roy More.
You can listen live at that link. You can also find the podcast there afterwards, or listen through iTunes.
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January 30th, 2012
Tschipey Achtu Lodge: Update
Back in 2010 I announced the formation of Tschipey Achtu lodge as a result of the merger of Ty-Ohni 95 and Ganeodiyo 417. At the time I was told they would use the number 397, which is also their council number. This created a bit of controversy as that number is currently in use by Chilantakoba lodge in Louisiana. I also announced their first flap. Other than a 2010 Jamboree issue no further news from this lodge made it to me.
I was talking with a Roger Ward last night who was at the recent Winter South Carolina Trade-O-Ree. He tells me it has not been quiet in that lodge. The use of 397 was problematic. Many wanted to choose a different number. Some wanted to claim the number zero, but that was not well received given the special place Unami 1 holds in the Order of the Arrow. The Scout Executive, I am told, stepped in and told the lodge they will use the lower number from the two merged lodges.
The lodge is now known as Tschipey Achtu 95. I have updated the site to reflect this current information. Several new issues have also been added.
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January 6th, 2012
A Guide to Identifying Chinese Fakes on eBay
My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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December 23rd, 2011
Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery (III)
[caption id="attachment_6836" align="alignleft" width="90" border="0" caption="Wahunsenakah 333 Piankatank Chapter Winter 2011 Service"]
I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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December 22nd, 2011
One of These Things Is Not Like the Other...
"One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others. By the time I finish my song?"
How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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Archive for Seminole 85
2011 marks the 75th anniversay of the Order of the Arrow in Gulf Ridge Council (Tampa, FL), for Seminole Lodge 85 and its predecessor, Kiondashama. Together, this lodge is the oldest in the state of Florida.
To mark the anniversary, Seminole has issued its flap (S-57). The design depicts the older and more current versions of the lodge totem, the ibis, as well as the a pine tree, presumed to be the totem of the short-lived Kiondashama. Also to be issued for the anniversary will be a bullion (available in March).
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Calvin Coolidge
As the host lodge for the recent 2010 Section S-4 Conference, Seminole Lodge 85 showed some restraint in the number of items created to commemorate their preparation for the event. For flaps, the lodge issued two: the first (85 S52, pictured here) was unrestricted to host lodge members. A second flap was available for those that met a service requirement (85 S53).
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John F. Kennedy
Seminole 85 J3?
Seminole Lodge 85 has a set of patches for their 2010 activities, with all of the weekend event patches available, along with the Year patch. As luck would have it, the year patch is undated, forcing it to also be classified as 85 J3.
The weekend patches are shaped to resemble feathers, with one for each activity.
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Henri Fredric Amiel -
As previously mentioned here, Seminole Lodge 85′s theme for their activity patches for 2009 resembles a puzzle, with the design to resemble a bow and arrow. While the third and fourth pieces have not yet been made available to me for scanning, here is the Fall Conclave patch.
The patch is 2 inches tall, and 11.25 inches wide. Obviously, this patch is not meant to be worn on the uniform; putting a button loop on this thing would either cause an end of the patch to hang below the belt (vertical), or halfway around the back (horizontal). And it breaks one of Rick’s Rules of Patch Design: The patch should fit on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper.
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"No enterprise can exist for itself alone. It ministers to some great need, it performs some great service, not for itself, but for others; or failing therein, it ceases to be profitable and ceases to exist."
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Seminole 85 2009 Spring Conclave
For the 2009 year, Seminole Lodge 85 has a new theme for their weekend activity patches. This year’s items are a puzzle set, forming a picture of an arrow. As of the 2009 Section S-4 Conference, the Winter Fellowship and Spring Conclave patches had been released. The next two event’s pieces will complete the rest of the arrow. Continue Reading »
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Seminole 85 S49?
Seminole Lodge 85 has recently introduced their newest regular issue flap patch (tentatively titled S49). Much like the design of S39, with the large ibis, the major difference between the two is that the new flap has glow-in-the-dark border and white design features on the bird.
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Calvin Coolidge
Seminole Lodge 85 has finally released their activity patches for 2008 (originally delayed due to manufacturer problems). Much like all but one year of their activity patch sets since 2001, this is in the form of a puzzle set, with all six pieces coming together to form a large fleur d’lis. Each patch has the name of the particular event, as well as an image of a Seminole leader and an ibis (the lodge totem). What is lacking on each patch? The year. Hopefully, this will be not be a multi-year set.
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"When you have eliminated the impossible, what ever remains, however improbable must be the truth."
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Bob Mathis recently sent me these images. I thought them so neat that I thought I’d share them here on this blog.
A while back I was carrying on here, as is my wont, about special issue low run patches and how they are being faked. I opined that lodges should look for other ways than patches to reward special achievements. I believe there are better ways to recognize brothers than by presenting them with a “special”, but still cheap, flap.
With that in mind, I share what Seminole 85 gave the attendees of their 1999 Winter fellowship. It’s a gorget. No patch was produced for this event. While it can’t be sewn onto a uniform, jacket or patch blanket it can be worn with either the Scout uniform or ceremonial/dance regalia.
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January 30th, 2012
Tschipey Achtu Lodge: Update
Back in 2010 I announced the formation of Tschipey Achtu lodge as a result of the merger of Ty-Ohni 95 and Ganeodiyo 417. At the time I was told they would use the number 397, which is also their council number. This created a bit of controversy as that number is currently in use by Chilantakoba lodge in Louisiana. I also announced their first flap. Other than a 2010 Jamboree issue no further news from this lodge made it to me.
I was talking with a Roger Ward last night who was at the recent Winter South Carolina Trade-O-Ree. He tells me it has not been quiet in that lodge. The use of 397 was problematic. Many wanted to choose a different number. Some wanted to claim the number zero, but that was not well received given the special place Unami 1 holds in the Order of the Arrow. The Scout Executive, I am told, stepped in and told the lodge they will use the lower number from the two merged lodges.
The lodge is now known as Tschipey Achtu 95. I have updated the site to reflect this current information. Several new issues have also been added.
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January 14th, 2012
An OAImages iPad App?
Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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October 4th, 2011
Indian Summer and Summit Corps Patches
I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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August 27th, 2011
Coming out of Hiding About April 1st
It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
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March 31st, 2011
Comment Spam
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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February 11th, 2011
Change in Comments Policy
This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
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Seminole (85) 75th anniversary 1936 – 2011
Posted in Florida Lodges,Kiondashama 85,Seminole 85 by Robert Mathis on February 20th, 2011 at 8:39 pm 
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