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January 30th, 2012
Tschipey Achtu Lodge: Update
Back in 2010 I announced the formation of Tschipey Achtu lodge as a result of the merger of Ty-Ohni 95 and Ganeodiyo 417. At the time I was told they would use the number 397, which is also their council number. This created a bit of controversy as that number is currently in use by Chilantakoba lodge in Louisiana. I also announced their first flap. Other than a 2010 Jamboree issue no further news from this lodge made it to me.
I was talking with a Roger Ward last night who was at the recent Winter South Carolina Trade-O-Ree. He tells me it has not been quiet in that lodge. The use of 397 was problematic. Many wanted to choose a different number. Some wanted to claim the number zero, but that was not well received given the special place Unami 1 holds in the Order of the Arrow. The Scout Executive, I am told, stepped in and told the lodge they will use the lower number from the two merged lodges.
The lodge is now known as Tschipey Achtu 95. I have updated the site to reflect this current information. Several new issues have also been added.
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January 6th, 2012
A Guide to Identifying Chinese Fakes on eBay
My friend Jason Spangler, also known as the Santee Swapper and host of the Scouting Hot Finds newsletters and podcast has assembled a free guide to spotting the fake Chinese made OA patches currently appearing on eBay.
A Guide to Identifying Recent Chinese Fakes on eBay
This is an extensive 24 page treatise on these patches, with many illustrations. It documents the fakes produced by various sellers over the past several years. It also discusses the marketing strategies of those who produced these fakes including the stealing of images from this website.
This is a must read for almost any collector who wants to avoid being taken by these fakes.
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December 23rd, 2011
Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery (III)
[caption id="attachment_6836" align="alignleft" width="90" border="0" caption="Wahunsenakah 333 Piankatank Chapter Winter 2011 Service"]
I have written several posts on this blog about patch designs that appear to have been copied or "inspired" by other designs, quite often from different lodges. For example see the first and second posts using this same title. Another example is this post on more "inspired" patches.
The patch pictured at the top of this post was a recent chapter event issue from Piankatank chapter of Wahunsenakah lodge. (Editor's note: Please see correction in comments). The lodge is chartered to the Colonial Virginia Council which could easily explain the American Revolution theme of the design. However, the lodge totem is a duck so the hawk's head might appear to be an unusual choice.
A friend gave this to me. He acquired it a Trade-O-Ree and thought of me once he saw the design. It's obviously taken from Tsoiotsi Tsogalii's 2010 SR-7B conclave flaps, listed on this site as S34? and S35?.
Perhaps someone in Wahunsenakah can fill us in on the story behind Piankatank chapter's choice of patch design. The artist of the lodge 70 flaps should be flattered that someone in another lodge was so impressed by his design that he chose to adapt it for his chapter's event patch.
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December 22nd, 2011
One of These Things Is Not Like the Other...
"One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others. By the time I finish my song?"
How many of you remember this song from "Sesame Street"? I saw a friend of mine at the Winston-Salem Trade-O-Ree last weekend. He usually has a great assortment of patches, many classic material and items from our area. However he wants it to be known that he isn't just interested in old patches, so he puts the frame pictured here on his table. I'll let him remain anonymous unless he chooses to step forward here.
One of those patches seems oddly out of place (really two but one sticks out more!). Do you see it? It's not quite as obvious as recognizing letters and numbers, but still very easy to see! Every time I see this frame I chuckle a bit. It's a good way to start a conversation. Now you all can join me in a good natured chuckle.
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December 7th, 2011
Of Thee We Sing... About Our Lodge
Last weekend I rode with Greg Grimes and Roger Ward and paid a visit to our mutual friend, Larry Banks. On the way there I was shown a book, published in 1938, given to members of Chappegat Lodge.
The book included the lodge by laws and rules. It included instructions on how to wear the "bands", as the OA Sash was called then, and lodge pin. Specifically, Brotherhood members were instructed that the bands and arrow on the lodge pin were to be worn pointed toward the left shoulder. It was also stated that the lodge pin could not be given to a non-member of either sex. This refers to the custom, still practiced today, of fraternity brothers giving their pins to their girl friends as a token of affection. The centerfold was the brother's membership certificate.
The music and lyrics of the OA song and the lodge song were also printed in the book.
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Archive for Oregon Lodges
Ok, so I am a little late with this post. 2009 saw the change of W-1A into W-1S and with it some advisorship changes. I became the Merchandising advisor for the section. What that entails is that the Trading Post, On-Line Trading post, Merchandise marketing and anything that is not food or program materials come under my leadership (of course I have a Conclave Vice Chief that works with me).
The conclave this year was well attended with over 450 Arrowmen from Oregon, Washington, California, Colorado and Idaho in attendance. The conclave was held at Camp Baker (Oregon Trail Council) on the central Oregon Coast. Food was outstanding and the fellowship was superb. The shows was spectacular thanks to Paul Collett and crew.
Since we had a new designation, I went all out to exploit it. Thus almost all the patches made for this year have Charter Member on them. We stuck with what the previous advisor had done and issued 4 pocket patches. Red Border for Participants, Blue Border for Staff, Gold Mylar for Auction Donation and Black Border for the Collector’s set. The amount made decreases with each batch with only 120 made of the black border.
There were 4 jacket patches made this year. The regular Charter Member Jacket Patch (150 Made) was the most common. All of these had less than 30 made. The Special Edition Jacket Patch (14 Made), The Patron Jacket Patch (30 Made) and the Guardian Jacket Patch (6 Made). The special edition was by special collector’s lottery only (Yes I got one). The Patron Jacket Patch required a $300.00 donation in cash and/or memorabilia (I got one of those too) and the Guardian required spending $1000.00 at the auction (I did not get this one). All of the patches are pictured in this article. I still have some of the participant, staff and auction patches available, along with the Charter Member Jacket Patch.
Next years conclave is scheduled to be held at Camp Rilea (Oregon National Guard), near the mouth of the Columbia River.
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Wauna La-Mon'Tay 442 ZS1?
Over the past several years I suspected that the Wauna La-Mon’Tay 442 S2 had been unofficially reproduced. I was told that I was wrong that since around 3000 were made that I was imagining things. I now have proof that the flap was faked.
At the Western Washington Trade-o-ree in March 2009 I traded for a group of patches of which the S2 was a throw in. Neither party knew at the time that this flap was counterfeit. In fact it was several weeks later as I was placing it into my dupe box that I noticed something odd about this flap.
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Wauna La-Mon'Tay 442 eX2008-1?
It has been awhile since I last submitted to this blog. Life is funny that way at times.
Each year for the past several years, Wauna La-Mon’Tay has issued activity patches for their 3 major events. 2008 was not different. Recently the lodge has tried to use a gimick to get people to attend all 3 events or at least buy the set of patches. In 2008 the gimick was to get all three patches to form a Vigil Triangle when sewn on the back of a jacket. Nice thought but the design did not lend itself to the fact that only one patch would actually be correctly mounted.
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259 eR1979
Well I have dwelt on Skyloo and Wauna La-Mon’Tay for awhile on their activity patch issues so I will briefly turn my focus to the lodge that was south of 442 until 1994 when 442 absorbed them.
Cole Snass Lamatai 259 issued two known activity patches during their 50 year existence. Both of these events were council wide activities sponsored by 259. The first known activity patch was issued for the 1979 Camporall and the second was issued for the 1991 Camporall. Both are clearly issued by the lodge (verified).

259 eX1991
I do not have much insight on these two events except that the attendance was as expected for a small council.
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The Portland, Oregon (Ed Harris Memorial) Trade -o- Ree has just ended. I want to thank all of those that attended and those that helped put on this event. We accomplished my two main goals – raise some money for the council and provide a great trading atmosphere for all of those that came.
We had some people that traveled a great distance, Dean Gross from Ohio, The Marvins from California, Bruce Lee from Wyoming and many from Washington.
Some great pieces exchanged hands either by trading or the small informal auction that was held. Bruce is going home with a Hyas Chuck 442 N2 (A hard piece in the NW and overall), Another member went home with a Hyas Chuck F2 (Hard to find, especially mint). Some choice Washington classic flaps also changed hand, and I picked up some classic Idaho flaps and some new issues from Idaho as well.
The TOR was well attended but did not reach the attendance goal I had wanted, but we came very close. Next year we will do it again with some improvements, especially now that I have a quality assistant and a very good registrar. Stay tuned for my announcement for next years TOR. Until then I hope to see many of you at the Western Washington TOR at the end of February.
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I am so happy. After many years of desire I finally had the money to nab me a Hyas Chuck Kah Sun Klatawa F2 on Ebay. I got it for cheaper than expected but this piece is in excellent condition and plugs my last patch hole in Hyas Chuck. Now I chase the neckerchiefs.
What is so special about this patch is that it was produced just before the 1960 National Jamboree and the lodge was changing it’s name from Hyas Chuck… to Skyloo so the balance of the flaps were given to the OA members going to Jamboree for trade. There was a low number produced of these flaps (200 to 300) and most of them are not located within the Oregon borders. This flap is consisdered a 8 to 9 in difficulty within the Pacific Northwest. I have not seen a dupe or one for trade in over 5 years.
I know that the first chief of Skyloo Lodge and former Hyas Chuck member wears one on his uniform and I had for years tried to get him to part with it. The one I picked up is from a long time collector in Oregon that is selling off his collection.
Well next Sunday or Monday I will report on the W1A Conclave. May all of your patch pursuits be gratifying.
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Skyloo 442 ZJ1
Jeff Ansley had previously written about a fake of the Skyloo 442 J4 that surfaced on eBay. At the time he didn’t have an image of the fake, which he labeled the ZJ1. Since then a scan has been obtained and added to this site.
Jeff revised his post to include the image of the ZJ1. It also also shown here.
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As all of you are aware of, AC5 is wrapping up and from what I heard it was very successful. I had to pull out of going to Shasta-Trinity for medical and financial reasons. That was too bad because the project was within my OA section (yes, W1A not W3B as it was first reported – check the council boundaries and you will see the project was completely within Crater Lake AC.) Only two lodges in my section had issued any patches, previously reported in this site. 253 only had one person that was signed up as of 5/31/08 and I am pretty sure that number stood pat.
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In 2006 Wauna La-Mon’Tay decided to issue a Camp Staff flap that would cover all camp staffers no matter which camp they staffed at. This also included the 2 JLT courses and the Cub Resisdent Camps. A few years before the Camp Meriwether had a staff flap of their own, S55, and they sold out very quickly.
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Well another two years have past and time again for Wauna La-Mon’Tay 442 to issue a new regular issue flap.
This flap was designed by a youth member of the lodge. This is a departure from the past several years where the lodge has gone with an adult design. The funny thing about this flap is that it reminds me of several flaps that Cahuilla 127 has issued over the last ten years.
This design will also serve as the basis for the lodge Leadership in Service flap that will be issued toward the beginning of 2009. I do not believe that the NOAC flap will include this design.
I have plenty of these for trade and I have them available on EBay. See you again.
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January 30th, 2012
Tschipey Achtu Lodge: Update
Back in 2010 I announced the formation of Tschipey Achtu lodge as a result of the merger of Ty-Ohni 95 and Ganeodiyo 417. At the time I was told they would use the number 397, which is also their council number. This created a bit of controversy as that number is currently in use by Chilantakoba lodge in Louisiana. I also announced their first flap. Other than a 2010 Jamboree issue no further news from this lodge made it to me.
I was talking with a Roger Ward last night who was at the recent Winter South Carolina Trade-O-Ree. He tells me it has not been quiet in that lodge. The use of 397 was problematic. Many wanted to choose a different number. Some wanted to claim the number zero, but that was not well received given the special place Unami 1 holds in the Order of the Arrow. The Scout Executive, I am told, stepped in and told the lodge they will use the lower number from the two merged lodges.
The lodge is now known as Tschipey Achtu 95. I have updated the site to reflect this current information. Several new issues have also been added.
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January 14th, 2012
An OAImages iPad App?
Some of those who know me personally, know that I have gone over to the "Dark Side" and have started using Apple products. I bought an iMac a couple of months ago and just recently got an iPad. My brother is trying to tell me that my Droid's days are numbered.
I really like my iPad and started day dreaming about an OAImages app for it. I have no idea how to go about writing this and it would take me into an entirely new area from what I know. It's not something that would happen easily or soon. Here's your chance to give feedback. What do you think about an OAImages app? What would you put in it? Do you have any thoughts on how it would be distributed or how much it would cost?
Please feel free to comment. Comments are moderated for those who have not successfully had a comment published on this blog before in order to control spam. I will do my best to approve comments as quickly as possible in order to facilitate a discussion.
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October 4th, 2011
Indian Summer and Summit Corps Patches
I have added special pages on this site for the 2011 Indian Summer and 2011 Summit Corps. I still have a few images to add but most of what I have images for is now on the site. Thanks for Rick Horne for most of these images.
To view these items, go to OA Images: National and Special Events Patches page and select either of these events from the "Other Specialties" drop down box.
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August 27th, 2011
Coming out of Hiding About April 1st
It's kind of odd to come out of hiding to post about a topic like this.
I'm hearing from some brothers that there have been gullible readers to this blog over the years. I would have thought it was obvious from the context of the posts, but the various posts made on this blog throughout the years that have appeared on APRIL FIRST are all satire. None of them are true. Read them and chuckle but please do not complain to your friendly OA National Committee members, Scout Executives, lodge advisers, or official website administrators about the "changes" that are "announced" in them.
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March 31st, 2011
Comment Spam
This is strictly an "FYI" post for those familiar with the issues facing those who maintain blogs and message boards where readers can post comments.
Recently I had been having issues here with comment spam getting past this blog's filters. I deleted the inappropriate posts as quickly as I could but this was still unacceptable to me, as well as additional work. I since have required that readers register before they're allowed to post comments here. That seems to have stopped the spammers.
I still see a number of probable spammers, mainly from Russian domains, registering on this blog but so far none have had their comments posted successfully.
I may test my luck for a short period of time in the near future. At some unannounced time, I will turn off the registration requirement for posting comments for a day or two. I want to see if the spammers have been chased away, or if they're just awaiting an easy opportunity to push their garbage
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February 11th, 2011
Change in Comments Policy
This blog is being hit with a large number spam comments lately. There have been over 12,000 attempts to spam the blog with comments just within the past 60 days. Recently a few dozen comments, hawking service and goods I deem inappropriate for this blog, made it past the filters. Since I don't desire to spend more time deleting the spam as I find it and don't want inappropriate information to sit on my blog, I am tightening up the policy on commenting here.
Those who wish to comment must now register and be logged in before being to post comments. Registration is free and is not the same as membership to this site. This is a common practice on many blogs especially among sites run by more "traditional media" type companies.
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