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Update: Skyloo Ceremony Team Jacket Patches

Posted in Oregon Lodges,Skyloo 442 by John E. Pannell on August 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 am

Skyloo 442 ZJ1

Jeff Ansley had previously written about a fake of the Skyloo 442 J4 that surfaced on eBay.     At the time he didn’t have an image of the fake, which he labeled the ZJ1.   Since then a scan has been obtained and added to this site.

Jeff revised his post to include the image of the ZJ1.     It also also shown here.

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Skyloo Ceremony Jacket Patches

Posted in Oregon Lodges,Skyloo 442 by skyloo442 on June 4th, 2008 at 1:55 am

Skyloo 442 J4

Recently I have seen several Skyloo 442 Ceremony Jacket Patches pop up on eBay. Funny thing about that is that only one was issued per person per lifetime and this guy in Germany has an endless supply. Paul Collett and I know how many of these were made and issued and the very tough standards that were used to qualify for one. Scan of the real deal are on this site and if I ever get my hands on one of the fakes – it will be also. If you have one please send me a scan. This guy has also produced a fake of the 311 Es-Kaielgu F1.

Skyloo 442 ZJ1

About 200 of this design were made and 50 of those had the word Honorary stitched on the bottom for adults that advised a qualifying team. All were awarded and nobody (I repeat NOBODY) got an extra. In fact the lodge was so tough that they used the same patch when Skyloo merged with Cole Snass Lamatai.   The Wauna La-Mon’Tay 442 X2 was created so that the patch could reflect the new lodge name. I have both jacket patches and the X2.

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1977 Skyloo 442 Activity Issues

Posted in Oregon Lodges,Skyloo 442 by skyloo442 on May 16th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

1977, the year I am elected to the Order of the Arrow, and Skyloo holds its second Native American Arts and Crafts Seminar. I am basking in the warm climate of 29 Palms, California wondering when I will get to the Palm Springs Tram to go up into the Mountains and ski (or more like fall a zillion times in the snow and have my girlfriend laugh at me). Back on topic — This event was held at the Chief Obie Lodge on Scouter’s Mountain.

Three items were issued for this event. A patch, a neckerchief and a pin. I do not have a scan of the pin but it was a golden buffalo with no words or numbers. Many people attended this event and the neckerchiefs proved to be the sought after item. The patches were produced in enough quantity so that very few were left over

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1976 — Skyloo 442 issues their first activity patch and N/C

Posted in Oregon Lodges,Skyloo 442 by skyloo442 on February 2nd, 2008 at 1:14 am

I know that I said I was going to do another piece on Wauna La-Mon’Tay specifically on 2002 but I could not really continue without going back to the first activity pieces issued by 442.

In 1976 Skyloo hosted an event called the Native American Arts & Crafts Seminar. They invited all of the neighboring lodges and basically held a workshop on regalia, crafts and food of the Native Americans. Some prominent local Native Americans showed up to help out with the event and overall it was a huge success.

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Skyloo 442 – District Issue vs. Chapter Issue

Posted in Oregon Lodges,Skyloo 442 by skyloo442 on July 15th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

scan0009.jpgAs time passes so does does the knowledge of why a patch was issued.   This has been the case with Skyloo 442/Columbia Pacific Council.

Over the past several months several items have appeared on ebay and in the blue book that suggest that a chapter in Skyloo issued a patch or neckerchief.   As the co-historian of 442 along with Paul Collett, I am going to shed some light on this subject.

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