Occoneechee 104 Eluwak Chapter X2?

There has been a lot of publicity and discussion on the National policy that prohibits lodge flaps for the individual “honors” (Ordeal, Brotherhood and Vigil), also referred to as OBV flaps. Many lodges did not have such flaps and were unaffected by this change. Some lodges that formerly issued OBV flaps have discontinued the practice. A rare few came up with creative ways to skirt the rule and continue the tradition for at least a little longer. Did Eluwak Chapter in Occoneechee lodge realize this applied to loge flaps and and not rectangular patches issued by chapters? Thanks to Greg Grimes for news of these issues and the images.

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Occoneechee 104 P3?

“Without our traditions our lives would be as shaky as… as…”

Occoneechee lodge issued a new neckerchief at its recent Spring Ordeal.     Following Blue Book custom, since this is a patch sewn onto a neckerchief, it is treated as a “pie” patch (P) rather than neckerchief (N).   After a run of modern, interesting, but at times unusual patch designs the lodge gave a nod to tradition with this patch.     Thanks to Greg Grimes for the image.

Perhaps next year if the lodge adopts a pirate theme for the 2011 conclave, as suggested by a recent commenter we will see a modernized and more fearsome version of this totem.     Yes, I am kidding with my friends in Occoneechee.

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Occoneechee 104 Neusiok Chapter eN2010?

Aloha `oe, aloha `oe
E ke onaona noho i ka lipo
One fond embrace,
A ho`i a`e au
Until we meet again
– Queen Lili`uokalani

Neusiok chapter of Occoneechee lodge issued a neckerchief for the lodge’s recent Spring Ordeal.   Thanks to Greg Grimes for this image.     Traditionalists can take solace that this piece does not feature a cartoon styled thunder bird.

Sporting a Hawaiian theme, this neckerchief was handmade.     The central portion of the design is printed and ironed onto hand cut and hemmed floral patterned material.   Greg reported that chapter members were wearing these at the Ordeal.   It remains to be seen how the printed portion of this neckerchief will hold up over time.

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Occoneechee 104 S78?

Occoneechee lodge recently issued a flap for this Summer’s 2010 BSA National Jamboree.       This is also a   BSA centennial issue.   Thanks to Greg Grimes for this image.

The lodge continues to used a modernized caricature version of their totem on this flap.     These have proven to be a hit with younger collectors even while being derided by a handful of adult collectors who prefer more traditional designs.     I only wish they used less ECU purple and more Carolina blue.   (just kidding)

The listing for this item is as follows:

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Occoneechee 104 X43?

Occoneechee lodge issued three pieces for delegates to the 2010 SR-7B conclave.   Thanks again to Wesley Drennan for these issues.

Being from North Carolina, the brothers of Occoneechee decided to celebrate “good eats” with a “BBQ at Conclave” theme this year.     The lodge issued a black border trader flap, a restricted orange border flap for delegates and an oval with black border.     The oval also features paratroopers, a nod to Fort Bragg located within the council and lodge, and the exhortation “Give to the troops”.   While some may not appreciate the levity in these designs they may be happy to note a general lack of purple (except in the thunderbird’s head).

Listing data for these issues are as follows:

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Occoneechee 104 S75?

A while back, before I started having all the recent troubles with the site, Greg Grimes sent me images of three new standard flaps Occoneechee lodge issued earlier this Fall.     They are rather “retro” in design for this lodge, featuring the designs and color schemes the lodge previously used on their Ordeal, Brotherhood and Vigil flaps.   They were also rendered in “Swiss” style embroidery, not the “computer designed” (CD) style commonly used on patches today.

These were created in an attempt to emulate the style and feel of the older Swiss issues from this lodge.     From what I’ve seen they did a reasonably good job at that.       These are quite a change from the style of the more recent CD OBV flaps.

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Occoneechee 104 X42?

Occoneechee lodge has produced and soon will issue a patch commemorating the lodge earning the Honor Lodge award at last Spring’s SR-7B Conclave.     Thanks to Greg Grimes for this image.

In SR-7B, “Honor Lodge” is an award that is earned by one lodge based upon completing various tasks,duties, and responsibilities during the year.   Participation in the various programs at conclave are included as well as administrative items.   It is awarded at each year’s section conclave.         The winner can claim to be the “best lodge” in the section.

The listing data for this issue should be:

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Occoneechee 104 M2?

Occoneechee lodge has produced its second metal flap.       They are currently in the lodge’s possession but have not yet been issued.     They will probably appear this Fall.

The design uses a stylized and modernized   thunderbird, previously used on the lodge’s 2009 SR-7B conclave set (F10?+X39?).

The listing data for this patch are as follows:

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2009 NOAC Hammerstone Scout Museum Patches

At NOAC there appeared six sets of patches for “Occoneechee Council Hammerstone Council Founders Day Exhibit”.     The sets use the OA arrowhead logo, a fleur d’lis, and “WWW” in their design.     They are being commonly sold and traded now as issues of Occoneechee lodge.   I have been told in no uncertain terms that this items were not authorized by Occoneechee lodge.     I do not yet know whether the Occoneechee Council authorized them, but that seems doubtful.

The originator of these pieces has an established track record of creating such items for national events.       His creations from 2002 are listed as ZS4-ZS6 and ZX1 under Occoneechee lodge.     Others have used wording, like these, to imply status as lodge issues but have not been listed.

Greg Grimes sent me this image over the weekend.     They’re not his pieces and I believe he got the image online.   Normally I do not lift images like this, but since these are not authentic issues,   I don’t see a problem.

Let me be clear.     My biases are well known.   These are NOT issues of Occoneechee lodge and I doubt they were authorized by the Occoneechee Council.       I consider them spoofs, at best.   Collect them if you wish with that knowledge in hand.     Know that doing so encourages the further creation of such items.     I am of a split mind as to whther or not these should be listed as private issues for Occoneechee lodge as the 2002 patches.     The use of the “WWW” and OA arrowhead logo inclines me towards listing them.   If listed they would be the ZS7-ZS12, and ZX2-ZX7 for this lodge.

I was not at NOAC and have no knowledge of whether this museum actually had a Founders Day exhibit, or who may have authorized them, or what reception these items received from those in authority.     The BSA has expressed great concern and interest in branding lately and is exercising greater control in the past over the use of their logos, names, trade marks and service marks.     I wouldn’t expect the folks in Irving to look too kindly upon such a blatant use, if it is not duly authorized.

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Popularity: 15% [?]

Occoneechee 104 QC1?

This is an old story.     It’s been heard before in other lodges, only the details change.     It’s the story of a patch that the lodge leadership rejected, and believed destoryed, turning up years later in the hands of a collector or dealer.   This time it happened close to home.

Occoneechee lodge issued four chenilles (C6-C9) in 2004.     One was released at each of the lodge’s major events that year and was the “premium item” in the trading post.     They were eagerly purchased and the lodge earned a tidy sum from their sale.   However, the lodge was not pleased with how one of the chenilles turned out.     It’s somewhat of a hybrid of the C8 and C9 designs.   It was decided this particular one would not be issued and they were entrusted to the lodge chief for destruction.     This is where things start to get murky.

Greg Grimes reports the lodge chief that year was a student at Campbell University.     He had agreed to, at least, cut these up before disposing of them.             Apparently he did not do this.     Instead it seems they were dumped into a dumpster on the campus of Campbell University.     According to Greg, it gets murkier still.

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